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    Question I've got it again...the upgrade itch....

    I've got that hankering to upgrade the ol desktop again.

    I was thinking about going to a WD Raptor 10K RPM HDD instead of the 7200 I have now...much of a difference you think? (both SATA)

    and/OR

    I was also toying with the idea of buying a matched pair of DDR2's and see if I can get the advertised 800MHZ on the clock speed for the RAM...right now I have 3-1GB modules, 400, 333x2 MHZ

    Thoughts?
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    They have 15K drives now. If you can afford it, do it.
    They also have solid state drives (no moving parts - they work like USB memory) which will be faster than any drive on the market.
    The solid state drives come in sizes up to 8 GB.
    That's not enough for your data, obviously, but it is enough for the operating system and your programs.
    Put the O/S on the solid state and the data on a 10K or 15K drive and your system will be smokin'!

    Zap added 8 Minutes and 5 Seconds later...

    Strange...

    I just checked the Canadian TigerDirect website and we can get the solid state drives in sizes up to 32 GB!

    You guys can only get up to 8 GB.

    Must be a department of home stupidity thing. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap View Post
    They have 15K drives now. If you can afford it, do it.
    They also have solid state drives (no moving parts - they work like USB memory) which will be faster than any drive on the market.
    The solid state drives come in sizes up to 8 GB.
    That's not enough for your data, obviously, but it is enough for the operating system and your programs.
    Put the O/S on the solid state and the data on a 10K or 15K drive and your system will be smokin'!
    the 15K is like $400+, 10k < 200

    those SSD's are a trip, maybe i should just wait on those to develop....my c drive is bloated, no way i could fit everything on 8g

    5.2G for win alone mg:
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsdd View Post
    the 15K is like $400+, 10k < 200

    those SSD's are a trip, maybe i should just wait on those to develop....my c drive is bloated, no way i could fit everything on 8g

    5.2G for win alone mg:
    Yeah. 8 GB would be pushing it then.

    (Get one of your Canadian friends to accept your shipment and forward the 32 GB drive on to you) :twisted:

    Zap added 2 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

    The offerings at the Canadian site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRIM View Post
    my whole PC dint costed that much mg:


    lol:

    Pros: So fast it time travels.
    Cons: my wife thought I spent this money on a stripper.
    timsdd added 3 Minutes and 15 Seconds later...

    hey, yous guys are smart

    as far as the DDR's, found a stupid good price might run out for those in a couple hours.

    I NEED 3GB but obviously a matched pair is 2...what happens when I plug one of my old 1GB into the 3rd slot? does the matched pair have to run @ the 3rd's speed? it must right?

    so then I'd really need 2 matched pairs?

    timsdd added 1 Minutes and 0 Seconds later...

    the only caveat on all 4 slots ,my stupid heat sink for the cpu over laps the 1st ddr slot
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsdd View Post
    the only caveat on all 4 slots ,my stupid heat sink for the cpu over laps the 1st ddr slot
    Time to pick up a new heat sink while you're at it. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap View Post
    Time to pick up a new heat sink while you're at it. :P
    liquid nitro cooled, gold conductor

    yeah the one I have now is like 1.0 steps above the stock one, the stock one you know is like 4 empty gum wrappers stapled together
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    IMO set this system up as a backup and build a new one

    Use it to dump off your files on, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRIM View Post
    IMO set this system up as a backup and build a new one

    Use it to dump off your files on, etc.
    while that would be easier, and make more "sense" - I wouldn't be able to "massage" the books enough in order to get a new system.

    plus we already have a perfectly good dumper :eek:
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    Don't you just love how the cpu heatsinks can run as much as the processor itself!

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    yeah, I was scoping out some of those

    the peacock is a riot...I don't think I'd be able to put the side fo the case back on

    timsdd added 341 Minutes and 57 Seconds later...

    I'll take two of these:
    DDR2 2GB (2x1GB) PC-6400C4, CL4-4-4-12, 800MHz, CorsairTWIN2X2048-6400C4

    one of these: Asus Triton 70 Universal CPU Cooler 775, AM2

    the fan is lame though, I need like 5K rpm....loud as a hair dryer on high!!!



    so far so good on the mem, I DO notice a difference or my brain tells me that it does in order to justify the cost

    for instance MS Outlook opens in < 0.33 seconds, before it was 1.2 secs at least

    timsdd added 4 Minutes and 5 Seconds later...

    which leads me to my next point...does anyone need 3GB of PC-6400???
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    Buy a new one and send me your current one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn View Post
    Buy a new one and send me your current one
    as & if

    I got a "FRYS????" from the mrs today mg:
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    4GB (2 matched pairs) = installed
    New CPU heat sink = installed
    3 old Thermaltake 4800RPM case fans = installed
    Raptor 10K RPM = here on Monday


    the matched RAM's didn't do me any favors with the OC'ing though, that kind of surprised me. It still BSOD'd @ 215 FSB. It still likes 211 though...212 is looming, I bet any higher and I'd have top tweak the CPU voltage mg:





    an interesting tidbit...in an effort to declutter my HDD...which was like 140GB! I found that in my c:\doc&settings\user\local settings\application data\ACDSEE Systems

    (ACDSEE an image catalogger/editor)

    where there was a folder called RIPcache taking up like 70GB of space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It must be part of the image DB...regardless that is way to friggin huge! I'd rather uninstall the program than have it take up that much freaking space!!!
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    Check out that program's options menu maybe you can tweak the cache settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dan View Post
    Check out that program's options menu maybe you can tweak the cache settings.
    I sorta did that but didn't see anything on the surface that would indicate a setting of that sort. I just blew it away, program probably won't run now
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsdd View Post
    I sorta did that but didn't see anything on the surface that would indicate a setting of that sort. I just blew it away, program probably won't run now
    ...or, it will run and it will just begin recreating that mammoth database as you access your images again.

    Keep an eye on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zap View Post
    ...or, it will run and it will just begin recreating that mammoth database as you access your images again.

    Keep an eye on it.
    I'm pretty sure it only does it if I ask but fo shop I am gpoing to keep an eye ball or 3 on it.
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    RAPTOR ---> installed & roaring

    wow, it's nice to finally have a PC living up to it's potential!

    I feel the need, the need for speed!!!
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    I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
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    It's like one big pile of gobbledygook! Men and their toys. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    It's like one big pile of gobbledygook! Men and their toys. :P
    It's like a whole different language they are speaking. I can almost hear the grunts and the scratching... mg:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hot Mama View Post
    It's like a whole different language they are speaking. I can almost hear the grunts and the scratching... mg:
    We need our own thread in our language then!

    Apparently they are tearing apart computers, inserting stuff, and making them better, in their minds anyway. :twisted:

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    have computers will upgrade
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    I'm sure if we were talking about shoes or whatever you'd be all giddy and participatory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    We need our own thread in our language then!

    Apparently they are tearing apart computers, inserting stuff, and making them better, in their minds anyway. :twisted:
    hey! I'm not the one who's LT gives them 2nd degree burns
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    mmmmmmmmmmmm shoes........... now THERE'S a HOT topic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hot Mama View Post
    It's like a whole different language they are speaking. I can almost hear the grunts and the scratching... mg:
    no grunts but when it all came together I gave it my oh face :twisted:
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsdd View Post
    I'm sure if we were talking about shoes or whatever you'd be all giddy and participatory
    Pfft.... I own 4 pair of shoes. You'd lose me there too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    mmmmmmmmmmmm shoes........... now THERE'S a HOT topic!
    just don't dig your high heels into my errrrrrrr NM :eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hot Mama View Post
    Pfft.... I own 4 pair of shoes. You'd lose me there too...
    I don't have many either but if I were rich, well um... it'd be the main thing I'd buy, I just love them, boots, heels, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hot Mama View Post
    Pfft.... I own 4 pair of shoes. You'd lose me there too...
    how can you own 4? I have like 4 or 5!! this ain't survivor sister!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    boots, heels, etc....
    START! :love:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hot Mama View Post
    I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
    did you at least get my 'need for speed' quote?
    it's from a movie from your "era"
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    Well I can insert stuff too, like my feet into shoes, so there!

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    No comprende the need for speed comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsdd View Post
    did you at least get my 'need for speed' quote?
    it's from a movie from your "era"
    Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz a tower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post

    No comprende the need for speed comment
    anyone? anyone?
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    Isn't Need for Kalina (Speed I mean, I swear!) a video game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    Isn't Need for Kalina (Speed I mean, I swear!) a video game?
    indeed it is, but that's not the PCR

    and I'll need that in the form of a ? :twisted:
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    What the heck is PCR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalina View Post
    What the heck is PCR?
    Pop Culture Reference...me and the Wik give a certain someone else a hard time for usually striking out on them. :twisted:
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    Speed is a drug :P lol....

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