Thread: Directory Submission

Other than the directory submission service on this site are there others out there that can be discussed?

Your question confuses me. I am not sure what you mean, you can discuss anything but if it's to advertise submission services, then it belongs in the marketplace.

Originally Posted by stopforeclosure

Other than the directory submission service on this site are there others out there that can be discussed?

Hi stopforclosure, I can see you concern about posting here, as my first glance was shit I walked into a phpld fanclub, mg: (I'm not the first to say it.)

This should't put you off though, as Kalina, Grim and the moderators here are in fact okay people when you get to know them, certainly they are straight talking and sometimes can quite cutting but if you can ignore that I would 100% recommend posting here, I am and I provide a rival script, and I post, okay I get ignored but I post.

The more of us that visit and support the forum owners and moderators the more we have a chance of getting a voice here. After all the only way for this or any other forum to really grow is to allow people like us to have our voice.

So get over here and post what you want, you'll be guided correctly I'm certain of that.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

I am and I provide a rival script, and I post, okay I get ignored but I post.

I have seen your Directory in action.. I must say its a good alternative for phpLD. only I wish you decide to go open source..

Originally Posted by The Webmaster

I have seen your Directory in action.. I must say its a good alternative for phpLD. only I wish you decide to go open source..

I'm offering a directory script TW, there's no need to go opensource, only people who want to play with php coding and smarty want opensource scripts, there's loads out there that offer that facility.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

Hi stopforclosure, I can see you concern about posting here, as my first glance was shit I walked into a phpld fanclub, mg: (I'm not the first to say it.)

It's totally misleading to say that WTf is a phpLD fanclub.

On scripts... phpLD has been around for years. It has proven itself over and over again and because of its longevity, there are many many people here who have first hand knowledge of the product because they have personally used it. Naturally, there will be many who comment on it.
Your script, on the other hand, has not been around long enough to be proven OR to have so many webmasters who are experienced enough to comment on its usage.
I think that you're confusing people's reaction to your personality with people's reaction to your script.

When your script has been around for years, then perhaps there will be as many webmasters ready and willing to post about it on forums as there are today with phpLD. You got into the game a little later. What do you expect?

Originally Posted by stopforeclosure

Other than the directory submission service on this site are there others out there that can be discussed?

Definitely!!
If you want to start any topic about directories, you can start.
There are less other topics because no one has started them..

Originally Posted by Zap

It's totally misleading to say that WTf is a phpLD fanclub.

On scripts... phpLD has been around for years. It has proven itself over and over again and because of its longevity, there are many many people here who have first hand knowledge of the product because they have personally used it. Naturally, there will be many who comment on it.
Your script, on the other hand, has not been around long enough to be proven OR to have so many webmasters who are experienced enough to comment on its usage.
I think that you're confusing people's reaction to your personality with people's reaction to your script.

When your script has been around for years, then perhaps there will be as many webmasters ready and willing to post about it on forums as there are today with phpLD. You got into the game a little later. What do you expect?

Zap, I concur. It's not that we're a PHPLD fan club, it's just what we have experience with.

Originally Posted by Kalina

Zap, I concur. It's not that we're a PHPLD fan club, it's just what we have experience with.

I think its the same thing that Zap was saying..

I said I agree, I was explaining why, should I just stop posting? What are you, the Nazi police?

The Gestapo in action!
Only on WTF.

Originally Posted by Kalina

I said I agree, I was explaining why, should I just stop posting? What are you, the Nazi police?

My apology your highness..
*Down on his knees*
I can not dare to ask you to stop posting.. Forgive your servant that he misunderstood the post...

Originally Posted by Zap

It's totally misleading to say that WTf is a phpLD fanclub.

On scripts... phpLD has been around for years. It has proven itself over and over again and because of its longevity, there are many many people here who have first hand knowledge of the product because they have personally used it. Naturally, there will be many who comment on it.

There you go again Zap, and this is the point I'm making, you need to take if from the view of other script owners, users, and those who have 'not decided'.

I actually posted in favor of this forum telling the thread starter to stick it out here.

Quote me:
So get over here and post what you want, you'll be guided correctly I'm certain of that.

I mention phpld and bang, you ignore the postive fact I encouraged the poster to stay here and preferred to have a go at me. Trust me on this one zap, this forum would have an awful lot more users from many other scripts if you didnt do that and more of a balance shown, but hey I don't know if thats what you guys want, and it is your forum after all. I was actually trying to help, even if I did point out facts to do so.

Originally Posted by The Webmaster

My apology your highness..
*Down on his knees*
I can not dare to ask you to stop posting.. Forgive your servant that he misunderstood the post...

No, I apologize, I am sorry for snapping, I'd bow down and kiss your feet but somehow don't think your wife would like that.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

There you go again Zap, and this is the point I'm making, you need to take if from the view of other script owners, users, and those who have 'not decided'.

I actually posted in favor of this forum telling the thread starter to stick it out here.

I mention phpld and bang, you ignore the postive fact I encouraged the poster to stay here and preferred to have a go at me. Trust me on this one zap, this forum would have an awful lot more users from many other scripts if you didnt do that and more of a balance shown, but hey I don't know if thats what you guys want, and it is your forum after all. I was actually trying to help, even if I did point out facts to do so.

I noted your encouragement, I believe Zap just wanted to point out that we're not some PHPLD cult. lol. mg:

I am coding my third theme to work with phplynx, to be released shortly.

Originally Posted by Kalina

I noted your encouragement, I believe Zap just wanted to point out that we're not some PHPLD cult. lol. mg:

Thanks Colleen, thats exactly what I was trying to get across to the OP that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. PHPLD Cult, christ I hope not, rememember what happened to the last David who led a cult, it was in a little place called Waco! mg:

I am coding my third theme to work with phplynx, to be released shortly.

How do I read this one? Is this your third phplyx theme or your third software theme? I haven't seen any from you yet but know people are waiting on you and a couple of others.

I am surely not a phpLD fan I only use it for one of my directories, going to switch totaly to indexscript now as it got some nice new features

^ I agree, not a fan of that script I love Esyndicat script. Awesome features!

Anyone that tried indexscript? The owner of that script recently implemented the PayPal IPN Function in it and i have volountaired to validate it with W3C standards so it will be alot better than past versions

Originally Posted by JuggernautH

Anyone that tried indexscript? The owner of that script recently implemented the PayPal IPN Function in it and i have volountaired to validate it with W3C standards so it will be alot better than past versions

That would be a great question to start a new thread with, let's try not to steal the original posters thunder heh.

Originally Posted by kdemonte

^ I agree, not a fan of that script I love Esyndicat script. Awesome features!

Yes indeed esyndicat are improving but as a script developer I'd be a little bit worries with the PageRank display as its against Google's TOS. Google could if they want, and probably will one day, (lets hope not) come down hard on those who they catch.

http://www.google.com/intl/en/terms_of_service.html
No Automated Querying
You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express permission in advance from Google. Note that "sending automated queries" includes, among other things:

using any software which sends queries to Google to determine how a website or webpage "ranks" on Google for various queries;

@ the index script fans, yes, looked at that one a long time ago, a bit lightwieght but hey if it does the job for then fantastic stuff. Good luck with your ventures, and its nice to see some other script fans posting here, it allows us all to compare and discuss.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

There you go again Zap, and this is the point I'm making, you need to take if from the view of other script owners, users, and those who have 'not decided'.

My post was totally from the perspective of the end user. In case you missed it, the point was that most of us have already decided. Many of us have been in the web directory business for years and we've been using phpLD that whole time because it has been the best thing available for much of that time. It's nothing against your script. Your script wasn't around 2 years ago when I created a directory. I could not have chosen it.

I have also used (and continue to use) other scripts. My most popular and heavily trafficked directory is NOT a phpLD directory. I chose that script because it has a million and one features and I wanted something like that when I chose it. Since I have been using it for over a year now, I have come to realize that it is not for me. But, I could only have come to that conclusion by using it thoroughly for an extended period of time. I have not done that with your script, yet. Because of that fact, I can't comment on your script, except to say that if it's even half as good as you say it is, then it's worth a try. And, as soon as I can get the time to develop a new directory, I am seriously considering giving it a go. But, until that time, I can only comment on the 2 different scripts I have used. It seems to me like you are looking for a bunch of people to come out of the woodwork and say how great your script is and that can't happen until it has been in use for a while. The tone of my post was to get that across to you and not to knock your script or tell you why phpLD is better.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

I actually posted in favor of this forum telling the thread starter to stick it out here.

I understand that you were trying to encourage the thread starter to post. But, you packaged that statement with language like "phpld fanclub (I'm not the first to say it)" and "sometimes quite cutting, but if you can ignore that...".
Your post wasn't all roses and tulips.
I know a backhanded compliment when I see one.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

I mention phpld and bang, you ignore the postive fact I encouraged the poster to stay here and preferred to have a go at me. Trust me on this one zap, this forum would have an awful lot more users from many other scripts if you didnt do that and more of a balance shown, but hey I don't know if thats what you guys want, and it is your forum after all. I was actually trying to help, even if I did point out facts to do so.

Again, you misunderstood my post. I wasn't "having a go at you". On the contrary, I was trying to give you some hope for the future. You seem to think that any positive comment about phpLD is, by default, a negative comment about your script. That's not the case. I was simply trying to point out to you the reason WHY there are many more positive comments about phpLD than there are about phpLynx. It's not got anything to do with whether or not one script is better than the other. It's purely because people have had time to use and abuse the phpLD script and your script is a relatively new player in the field. Give it time and your script will have people singing it's praises too. That was the point of my post.

Seriously, when your buddy says to you "I was thinking about getting a car. Which ones do you like?", you don't recommend the Mustang that you've never driven. You recommend the Acura that you've driven for years and has never given you a problem because that's what you know. Just because you like your Acura, it doesn't mean that you dislike Mustangs.

Originally Posted by Zap

My post was totally from the perspective of the end user.

Yes, I did miss your point, I tend to cut through the waffle and get to the point, perhaps thats what you think is a bad personality? I think you understimate my knowledge Zap, I've been in the directory game for more than 7 years now and in business for over 25 years, although that doesn't make me an expert.

Without digressing this into war and peace chapter 2 and turning this into a slanging match between you or I, or even the scripts, I'll simply say that you did have a go at me, commenting on my personality. You do alos appear overzealous on one script alone, if your perspective is of the end users, users of what? Even in your reply above you mention only one script by name, for that reason alone it portrays a bias standpoint whether intentional or not. This is how many percieve this forum and indeed some others and that was the ONLY point I was putting across to the original poster; If you thought it was anything other then you were wrong.

One thing, I love the posts by cantufind.

He turns everything posted into himself and his script.

Just read everything, zap was trying to say he has, like me, been using phpld for years.
Also like me, he tried other scripts.
Most scripts I tried were lacking, buggy, or not worth the purchase price.

Now for this forum, I think you blew it!
Not everyone coming to this forum will think it is a phpld lovefest and that this forum is about phpld and bashing of other scripts.

Said it before, will say it again, you are just paranoid.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

You do alos appear overzealous on one script alone, if your perspective is of the end users, users of what?

Users of a directory script.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

Even in your reply above you mention only one script by name, for that reason alone it portrays a bias standpoint whether intentional or not.

That's your paranoia acting up again. I didn't mention the name of the other script because I went on to say that I didn't like it and that opinion wasn't solicited. I didn't feel the need to drag that script through the mud and I haven't dragged yours through the mud, either, although you wouldn't guess that from your reaction.
I can only surmise that you have a strong dislike for the phpLD script or it's author because it seems to put you into a "tizzy" whenever it's mentioned.

Originally Posted by Cantufind

This is how many percieve this forum and indeed some others and that was the ONLY point I was putting across to the original poster; If you thought it was anything other then you were wrong.

Fine: I could say that the perception is that your forum is great and there are some really great people there, if you can just cut through all the paranoia and bullshit that seems to be present there.
Would you consider that a compliment? I wouldn't.
And, the point being made with it is crystal clear.

Like I said... I recognize a backhanded compliment when I see one and your attempt to obfuscate it is almost as strange as your reaction to the mere mention of phpLD.

Being a newcomer both to this site and to this particular thread...I did read it all. I would like to add my 2cents..if you all care to read...so here goes.

I haven't seen anything posted here (yet) that stipulates we as forum members can only discuss phpLD or any other script for that matter. Having said that and after reading this thread, I think anyone of us should be able to promote (not advertise) any script we persoanllay feel is a good choice or good fit wor what we want to accomplish with our directory...whether it be phpLD, eSyndicat, phpLynx...or any other.

How do you think any of the scripts got to be where they are today? Is was by folks like us communicating the good the bad and the ugly of our experience with the script Granted there are other contributors that come in to play with each script such as how easy it is to modify, open or closed source, number of mods, add-ons etc.

Point is...I see some rather personal attacks or what appear to be very strong verbiage going back and forth. Let each of us ahve our own opinion and make advice. It's up to each of us what we do with that advice or opinion cast upon us here in this forum or any other forum.

I personally have at least 2each or more of most of the directory scripts named here in this forum. Some I like more than others due to features or whatever. If some one asks a question or advice, I am more than willing to give it. I will also give kudos to any or all of them when it is deserved.