Thread: The Value of Low PR Link Directories

I really wonder if there is any value in putting our links on low value link directories (say PR 2 or less) as the links provide no 'reputation' to your site until they a indexed by google and alot of these pages take too long to index or just never get indexed.
Are we best concentrating on the higher PR directories?

I dont think link form low PR directories will give us much seo benefit as most of them are likely to be dropped from the search engines.

Best try to do link exchange with the relevant sites even if they have low pr its ok.

before I use to submit my site to directories but after observing the effect of it I was really disappointed, it doesn't even drive traffic to my site, I realized that people doesn't go to directories to search what they wanted, they just type what they need in search engines, also most directories require 3 months approval too long to wait, and most of their pages are not even indexed by google, it simply means that we are not benefiting from them..

in short directories are devalued for me.

Also the approval rates on the directories is ridiculous. I sent out like 100 submission and only got 4 approvals back. I think a lot of directory owners are not looking at their sites unless they have a paid link request. Money talks.

I think its get benefited when they get google indexed. i always prefer to exchange my relevant sites to link exchange. Blog comment posting is helpful one to get high traffic and PR on google.

Hi,

If you have chance to get backlinks from lower PR sites or directories then you should not loose this.

Because today sites or directories are not indexed but after few days when they will indexed with google ....... you can get more quality backlinks for your site.

Thanks

Well there is no doubt you should try to get backlinks from high PR sites, but even from PR 1 and 2 it's not that bad and definitely not completely useless.

If you get backlinks from a PR 0 website which haven't even indexed by Google - it is useless.

i thinks as much as targeted back links we get it's improved our PR.
and of course high PR back links has the unique importance for your links in search engine.

A link is a link i suppose but most directories do not pass on that much benefit. It is worth doing as part of an overall strategy but i would not go out of my way to constantly submit to them.

True. A link is a link. Even if it's a low PR directory, in time, it will surely gain a good PR. By that time, I'm sure it gives a value already.

I don't believe there are any "bad links"
the lower page rank directories may be more of a "long term" type of link.
I really like this list of dir's
Niche Directories - Add URL, Submit Your Site - Directory Critic
I'll submit each of my top sites to all the directories in my niche, which includes high pr, low pr, paid and free directories.

Very effective

to submit at lower PR is only a chance to get benefit of ""IF"". it means if you get any back link that is a chance. so.. I think if you submit 100 and get 10 that is 10% so submit more site and it will will increase your chance.

Keep in mind that directories can move from "low quality" to high quality, and it is difficult to know which directory owners will do a good job editing and improving their directory over time.

Originally Posted by dvduval

Keep in mind that directories can move from "low quality" to high quality, and it is difficult to know which directory owners will do a good job editing and improving their directory over time.

My thoughts exactly and every site has to start somewhere. Also DMOZ has lost popularity heehee so there has to be another one or ones to take their place.

If your pr is higher than that of the directory, I do not see any value at all..

I personally look at it much the same way as building long tail keywords, you might not see much benefit from it at the moment, or at all, but someday it may just pay off really well.

every single back links from a directory whether the directory has a low page rank still the link will able to help your website. We do not know if when is that particular website will increase it's page rank or rank on top to search engines.

Every link counts.
But to pay for a 0 PR back link might not be a smart thing.

Originally Posted by lazyfrog

Every link counts.
But to pay for a 0 PR back link might not be a smart thing.

Ive never been in the position to purchase links but does anyone else? and do you find it worth it?

Originally Posted by nickora

Ive never been in the position to purchase links but does anyone else? and do you find it worth it?

I did it in the past...and yes it does improve things...

Every site has to start somewhere. Like it was send before it all depends on how well the owner does with the site.

I have a new web host review site that I spend about 8+ hours a day trying to build quality linking to it.

My alexa ranking went from 16,110,551 on the 27th of April to 1,922,603 today.
And I am hoping, crossed fingers, on the next PR update my ranks go up.

Originally Posted by AnnREgirl

Also the approval rates on the directories is ridiculous. I sent out like 100 submission and only got 4 approvals back. I think a lot of directory owners are not looking at their sites unless they have a paid link request. Money talks.

Big issue. A lot of time or money wasted.

Bogart added 5 Minutes and 56 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by loco

I don't believe there are any "bad links"
the lower page rank directories may be more of a "long term" type of link.
I really like this list of dir's
Niche Directories - Add URL, Submit Your Site - Directory Critic
I'll submit each of my top sites to all the directories in my niche, which includes high pr, low pr, paid and free directories.

Very effective

I like that - "long term" type of link. My link building is for the long term.

Generally the competition has more time and resources. The only way to beat them is to be in for the long haul and work with more intelligence.

Bogart added 24 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by crombiecrunch

Every site has to start somewhere. Like it was send before it all depends on how well the owner does with the site.

I have a new web host review site that I spend about 8+ hours a day trying to build quality linking to it.

My alexa ranking went from 16,110,551 on the 27th of April to 1,922,603 today.
And I am hoping, crossed fingers, on the next PR update my ranks go up.

Alexa ranking and pr are not good metrics to judge the sucess of your linking building campaign.

Originally Posted by The Leader

I really wonder if there is any value in putting our links on low value link directories (say PR 2 or less) as the links provide no 'reputation' to your site until they a indexed by google and alot of these pages take too long to index or just never get indexed.
Are we best concentrating on the higher PR directories?

I usually find my "free directories" to submit through on a forum..never had to google/yahoo search yet! Now I usually check put the OP (thread starter) rep before I even consiidering submitting! If the person gives me the impression that he/she is a go getter and is "long term serious"! I definitely gonna take a chance and submit!

For instance.. a few months back, I came across a "Submit Your Site in My Directory" thread..did my usual research. Now that new directory sure moved up in a few months (the drive of the owner) and proud to say that I get a few visits every day!

Not bad for spending a total of 5 minutes to submit to the right directorymaster (not sure if that a real term but) !

Plus any traffic is way better than no traffic!

Originally Posted by loco

I really like this list of dir's
Niche Directories - Add URL, Submit Your Site - Directory Critic
I'll submit each of my top sites to all the directories in my niche, which includes high pr, low pr, paid and free directories.

Very effective

Thanks for the link!

Originally Posted by briguy

I usually find my "free directories" to submit through on a forum..never had to google/yahoo search yet! Now I usually check put the OP (thread starter) rep before I even consiidering submitting! If the person gives me the impression that he/she is a go getter and is "long term serious"! I definitely gonna take a chance and submit!

For instance.. a few months back, I came across a "Submit Your Site in My Directory" thread..did my usual research. Now that new directory sure moved up in a few months (the drive of the owner) and proud to say that I get a few visits every day!

Not bad for spending a total of 5 minutes to submit to the right directorymaster (not sure if that a real term but) !

Plus any traffic is way better than no traffic!



Thanks for the link!

The acceptance rate for the "Submit Your Site in My Directory" threads are high. Good way to pick up 50 to 100 links a week if you do it on a daily basis.

I've had some good results using a manual submission service the last week. I purchased a 1500 submission package and spread the tiltles among three keywords. I'm know ranking #22 for one of the keywords. I'm kind of suprised because I have done any seo for that kw. I also picked up another sitelink for another kw.

The niche directories are the best for targeted traffic.

Originally Posted by Bogart

The acceptance rate for the "Submit Your Site in My Directory" threads are high. Good way to pick up 50 to 100 links a week if you do it on a daily basis.

I've had some good results using a manual submission service the last week. I purchased a 1500 submission package and spread the tiltles among three keywords. I'm know ranking #22 for one of the keywords. I'm kind of suprised because I have done any seo for that kw. I also picked up another sitelink for another kw.

The niche directories are the best for targeted traffic.

Thanks for the advice..especially the acceptance rate! Now just got to find those free directories!

Originally Posted by briguy

Thanks for the advice..especially the acceptance rate! Now just got to find those free directories!

You have to search around the webmaster forums. A lot of these directories go paid or the webamster loses interest. So you need to catch them while they are hot.

Originally posted by Menthol
A link is a link i suppose but most directories do not pass on that much benefit. It is worth doing as part of an overall strategy but i would not go out of my way to constantly submit to them.

I agree with his explanation. Just keep on submitting your site even though it have a low PR.

Originally Posted by riderbabygurl

Originally posted by Menthol
A link is a link i suppose but most directories do not pass on that much benefit. It is worth doing as part of an overall strategy but i would not go out of my way to constantly submit to them.

I agree with his explanation. Just keep on submitting your site even though it have a low PR.

Don't forget about the second part of the statement. Remember that just as the reciprocal link party ended (Sept. 2006 - Big Daddy Update 1-2-3):blah:, Google can change its algorithm at any time and give directory links little or no weight.

Nice tread here and back link is very effective to site

It depends if you have to do a reciprical link.
If you do then you might be helping them more than they are helping you.

otherwise theres no harm, especially if your site has low or no PR.

Originally Posted by Misa21

If your pr is higher than that of the directory, I do not see any value at all..

what if your PR drops :smartass:
there is no such thing as a "Bad link" IMHO :energetic:

The idea of a long term investment in a low PR directory may well pay off if the site is working hard to build itself but it could also be shutdown when the renewal time is due which could mean you'll have a reciprocal link pointing nowwhere which might cause you problems!

Originally Posted by The Leader

The idea of a long term investment in a low PR directory may well pay off if the site is working hard to build itself but it could also be shutdown when the renewal time is due which could mean you'll have a reciprocal link pointing nowwhere which might cause you problems!

Submit to the free directories that don't require a backlink. :devlish:

The value of placing a link in a low PR directory is a good debate. My view is that placing your link in a low PR directory is a good thing. The first reason being it will be added to the directory quickly and unlikely be turned down. Second since PR is based on backlinks a new directory will rise very quickly since they usually offer the option to reciprocate and give your website a bump in their pages. Since many webmasters opt in the growth usually happens quickly. The argument of course is this will not happen and the majority of webmasters prefer not to link to such a general website. Still though it is a free one way backlink it should not be your only source, but one that is easily accessed unlike gaining the perfect backlink (one way high PR relevant to your niche).

Originally Posted by kbeus21

The value of placing a link in a low PR directory is a good debate. My view is that placing your link in a low PR directory is a good thing. The first reason being it will be added to the directory quickly and unlikely be turned down. Second since PR is based on backlinks a new directory will rise very quickly since they usually offer the option to reciprocate and give your website a bump in their pages. Since many webmasters opt in the growth usually happens quickly. The argument of course is this will not happen and the majority of webmasters prefer not to link to such a general website. Still though it is a free one way backlink it should not be your only source, but one that is easily accessed unlike gaining the perfect backlink (one way high PR relevant to your niche).

It's not about pr. The seo value is thousands of oneway links that help you rank on the anchor text.

I think if you post your link in low PR directory than it is not use less.
It is new directory so it takes some time to get High PR. SO if you submit your site in low PR directory than may be after few updates it get high PR and may it takes no free submission at that time.
SO be optimistic and submit also in low PR directories.

i agree with jessica this low pr directories is still counted as back links someday this directories will have high pr and your investment in this directories will pay off