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    Hello guys,

    Previous month, we undertook an experiment on online marketing and submitted a fresh website to Google. Just in 30 days, the page rank improved from 0 to 6.

    We used a whitehead techniques for carrying out the experiment.

    We took two projects in the experiment, in which project 1 consumed five years, on site optimization strategies, 20,000 backlinks and managed to grab top ten positions in Google.

    Project 2 took 30 days, 35 backlinks, on site optimization strategies and did not even get a position in top 500.


    Project 1
    20,000 backlinks
    Pr6
    Top 10 SERP

    Project 2
    35 Backlinks
    PR6
    Top 1000 SERP

    I cant post more infos as the research was created for online-marketing.ch - which I work at. Anyway, this experiment however showed that even with a PR 6, a SERP isnt that much influenced by the value we see on the toolbar Page Rank.
    Mike - Intern Webdevelopment
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    What techniques your put in your project 1 pls tell i also want to know how can a site get PR and ranked in google top 10 result in 30 days. awaiting for your reply onlinemarketing

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Google Page Rank has nothing to do with the SERP. SERP's normally depend on the number of backlinks pointing to your site. The more the number of backlinks to your site the higher will be your chances to rank high on SERP's.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    I prefer good traffic is better than PageRank

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    PR is a factore but, as you see, it is not the only one. There are many factors like the content quality, visitors, etc.

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    Hi,

    This is the 100% true that if you have high page rank then this is not necessary that you will get the position into the search engine ranking. PR shows a website reputation and quality which is measures by the Google. PR is means the wensite is trust worthy.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    do you want Page Rank,you mast improve backlinks.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Ranking is part of the tools we use to get in top 10. But as we know, content is king.

    I would like to see your 2 websites to compare the content and other parts on the pages.

    Can you send the url of the websites ?

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    The basis of SERP and PR is caculated by Google in two different algorithm. Ways to improve ranking is different from the ways to improve your PR.

    "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Last year I've read somewhere that PR is just one of about 200 factors that influence the position of a Web site in SERPs and it is not the most important one, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo SQP View Post
    Last year I've read somewhere that PR is just one of about 200 factors that influence the position of a Web site in SERPs and it is not the most important one, of course.
    Doesn't it makes sense? PR and ranking have different basis. They are calculated in different terms.

    "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."

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    The algorithm to calculate PageRank is described (you can find a corresponding article in Wikipedia) - it depends on the backlinks. Ranking depends on many factors - the number of backlinks, the contents, PR, etc. So partly their basis is the same - the backlinks. In addition, PR influence PageRank directly.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Including all the replies over this thread, i also in favor to make lots of back-links from High PR having websites is only responsible to increase your website PR.

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    Page Rank is just a ancient era factor. It has almost no effect in SERPs. I've seen a lot of unraked / PR0 sites in front of PR5-PR6 sites in searches. Just follow the keyword strategy. Don't waste your time with not interesting factor.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Quote Originally Posted by jason simpson View Post
    Google Page Rank has nothing to do with the SERP. SERP's normally depend on the number of backlinks pointing to your site. The more the number of backlinks to your site the higher will be your chances to rank high on SERP's.
    Yes I agree, but i'm also interested to know what did you do to have the new site a PR in just 30 days.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Hello.

    Which flash page?

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    I also agree with previous replies and obviously both follow different algorithm.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    if your site has good backlinks , any word on the content will become a keyword search for search engines

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlinemarketing View Post
    Hello guys,

    Previous month, we undertook an experiment on online marketing and submitted a fresh website to Google. Just in 30 days, the page rank improved from 0 to 6.

    We used a whitehead techniques for carrying out the experiment.

    We took two projects in the experiment, in which project 1 consumed five years, on site optimization strategies, 20,000 backlinks and managed to grab top ten positions in Google.

    Project 2 took 30 days, 35 backlinks, on site optimization strategies and did not even get a position in top 500.



    Project 1
    20,000 backlinks
    Pr6
    Top 10 SERP

    Project 2
    35 Backlinks
    PR6
    Top 1000 SERP

    I cant post more infos as the research was created for online-marketing.ch - which I work at. Anyway, this experiment however showed that even with a PR 6, a SERP isnt that much influenced by the value we see on the toolbar Page Rank.

    If it is true then it is really a good research work........I will also check sites with good page rank

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    I am always select the web traffic... after the select page rank.... so thanks for the sharing this information...

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    Quote Originally Posted by suichiro View Post
    Doesn't it makes sense? PR and ranking have different basis. They are calculated in different terms.
    I agree with you, PR and traffic both have different basis and PR has nothing to do with traffic.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    I think both SERP and Google PR are importance
    Last edited by Sami4u; Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:56 am.

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    I prefer good traffic is better than PR

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    1 month i think so

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    Page rank is nothing in compare to good rank in serp. Serp ranking create traffic to website, results a great revenue, but PR doesn't create any amount of traffic in term of business


    Regards
    Last edited by Sami4u; Jan 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm.

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Definitely you are right...........I am agree with you

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    Default Re: Page Rank and Google Position

    Me too, I prefer higher traffic than page rank. Though it is helpful to have higher page rank so that the site will be on P1 in Google. But who cares I have lots of traffic so meaning many people goes to my website.
    Last edited by Sami4u; Jan 22nd, 2011 at 11:18 pm.

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