Thread: Submit or Not Submit?

Okay. I have just got a new domain name for my new forum and I was about to go submit too Google, MSN and Yahoo when I seemed to remember someone here saying not to submit to google and to let the search engines find me instead?

Is this true? I cant find the thread to check what was said? What would be the benefit of not submitting?

Cheers for any help.

no, do not submit. Just a few links will do

It would be better if you submit it to Google, MSN and Yahoo so that they can crawl your site.

Why not submit? It's a sure thing that it's better you submit your site to seach engines and let them to crawl it.

Such conflicting advice. Some people tell me its much better for Google to find you through link banks etc than submitting to them and others say its better to submit your site straight away. Now im very confused

No no, It isn't correct. Submit it to Google and also use Google Webmaster Tools. If you can also submit SiteMap to Google Webmaster Tools and check out how it will be useful. With waiting you will only make delay in indexing.

When you submit your website to the search engines, they take forever (sometimes) to crawl your site.
So, it will be much faster to get indexed if you work on getting links to your site.
Don't ignore submitting directly to the search engines, but don't count on fast results from that alone.
And it's not going to hurt you to submit to the search engines. It's just not very effective.
You'll definitely get indexed much quicker by getting links pointing to you.

Thanks Zap. I understand now. Thank you. Will take your advice.

Don't submit, just point some links to it

I've found that when you don't submit and let the natural links rank it itself, the initial ranking is much higher than if you submit.

Tom

I dont bother with search engine submission anymore unless it comes free as part of a hosting package.

I always get a few links and submit a sitemap to google webmaster tools and yahoo site explorer.

Personally, I never submitted to any of the search engines. And always a few links did the work! I agree with Zap's reply though.

A single dofollow backlink from a frequently crawled site, forum, blog or directory would do the job

I agree with ZAP. It is best to be found by the bots by building some great links. However, it is also a great idea to submit a site map to Goggle.

I have found that my home page gets indexed quickly if I build links and they find me naturally. However, they normally fail to index my inner pages. I always wait for the first indexing then I submit my site map and it does not seem to be that long before they pick up all the pages.

I have no verification to prove this but I have three blogs that I did the same thing with and all of them were indexed quickly.

I agree with those who say do not submit it to the search engines.

All you have to do is get one link on any page that is crawled by the search bots and they will find you.

Submitting to SEs can take weeks or months, getting yourself a link on Ezine Articles, or another site, blog, even a forum link can get your site indexed very quickly.

I have launched many new websites and had them indexed within a few days just by submitting an article to a place like Ezine Articles or American Chronicle.

If you are using WordPress for your website the script pings the SEs when you make a post. A lot of sites I have done were with WP and I have seen them get indexed in as little as 1 day but usually 2 or 3.

If you are doing social bookmarking then there is no need to submit your site to google...

You may or may not submit it on SE because some site optimize their sites to indexed faster , because of the internet marketing approach, but some site don't do this, they just wait for the spider to crawl their sites.....just know your priority...

Originally Posted by Zap

When you submit your website to the search engines, they take forever (sometimes) to crawl your site.
So, it will be much faster to get indexed if you work on getting links to your site.
Don't ignore submitting directly to the search engines, but don't count on fast results from that alone.
And it's not going to hurt you to submit to the search engines. It's just not very effective.
You'll definitely get indexed much quicker by getting links pointing to you.

Yup... Good idea... I agree with you... It is better if you work on getting links to your site. One great way to obtain that is through Social Bookmarking, you'll easily get indexed.

I wouldn't worry about submitting either, but you should setup a sitemap.xml file and setup google webmaster tools.

Just adding the site link in your sig here and post for 2 weeks, will get any new site indexed.

Hi Friend,

Read Your Question.

And as per my opinion,You should not submit.

Originally Posted by CompuSupport

Okay. I have just got a new domain name for my new forum and I was about to go submit too Google, MSN and Yahoo when I seemed to remember someone here saying not to submit to google and to let the search engines find me instead?

Is this true? I cant find the thread to check what was said? What would be the benefit of not submitting?

Cheers for any help.

Hi,

I am new at this forums and i hope for good response from all members.

About this thread,

I want to know you can use google webmaster and yahoo explore for submit your site map or other work but how can you submit your site to MSN.

If you have any idea then please let me know.

because i have tried many times but not got any option to use MSN directly.

Thanks

Hey don't submit your site in Google it will take more time to index instead of it submit it in the different search engines.

You can find that list of the search engine in the list-of-list.blogspot.com

You've got some conflicting replies here, but the majority are saying not bother submitting. My opinion is to not submit, heres why:

1 - A good link to your site or adding in webmaster tools is all that is needed for Google to find your site.
2 - Who cares about MSN and Yahoo? The traffic from them is peanuts compared with what Google will send.
3 - The time spent submitting sites to search engines can be spent better elsewhere - e.g writing new content for your site, promotion or even just drinking a nice cold beer..

Submitting just to engines alone will not get you good results until the long run when you have a good amount of backlinks from other good pagerank sites.

I think it doesn't really matter if you submit your site.

Originally Posted by Jon Tiffany

You've got some conflicting replies here, but the majority are saying not bother submitting. My opinion is to not submit, heres why:

1 - A good link to your site or adding in webmaster tools is all that is needed for Google to find your site.
2 - Who cares about MSN and Yahoo? The traffic from them is peanuts compared with what Google will send.
3 - The time spent submitting sites to search engines can be spent better elsewhere - e.g writing new content for your site, promotion or even just drinking a nice cold beer..

I care about Yahoo search - they send me thousands of visitors every month

I also care about MSN search, while they dont send as much as Yahoo they do send steady traffic

submit it after the google yahoo and msn finds you . you only need one good link and google will find you very easy

I also don't buy the idea of submitting to SEs. They will surely find you naturally if you're ready and visible enough to them...

Focus on other things instead, like writing a good content, and other stuffs to add on your blog that can really help you get good traffic.

Never submit to SE.. If you want your site to be index by SE, you can try Social Bookmarking your site.. It can help your site to be index much faster.. I tried it and it work for my site..

it is fine to submit your website to search engines.. I do not see any problem with that..

I think you should submit the site to google.It will be better for you.

Originally Posted by rachelbles

it is fine to submit your website to search engines.. I do not see any problem with that..

Originally Posted by weblover50

I think you should submit the site to google.It will be better for you.

Would either one of you care to explain why you think this is a good thing to do?

I have always submitted to google and MSN, Yahoo and have to say it hasnt done any harm

Hi,
Personally, I never submitted to any of the search engines. And always a few links did the work !.................

google webmaster tools is very useful.if you have a sitemap in your website,you can submit your sitemap too which will help googlebot to find your pages and layout of your website.

do not submit your site to any search engine just let them Search your site naturally. because if you are referring your site to search engine then its depend on them when they want to Crawl your site . but if you are generating links for your site then they Will notice your site in very short period

No never submit, its actually the slowest way to get indexed. Get high PR links

I generally will run down two paths when I start a new site - get a couple of high quality, relevant links and create an XML sitemap to submit to Google and Yahoo. The links will get your index page listed, and once you get there, the sitemap helps to get the rest of your site crawled.

I cover all options and submit to google, submit sitemap and get links pointing in.
Usually 7 days to index!

I dont think you need a sitemap unless your site is huge do you? Ie like millions of pages?