Thread: A car that runs on water!!!!

Genepax unveiled the car in Osaka, Japan on June 12, saying that a litre of any kind of water would get the engine going for about an hour at a speed of 80 kmph, or 50 mph.

Typical fuel cell vehicles take in hydrogen and emit water, but Genepax’s car generates electricity by breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen.

The company says that this is made possible by a technology called ‘membrane electrode assembly (or MEA), which contains a material that is capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction.



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Just you try to talk Grim into trading his Hummer in for one of those..

Cool technology but the styling falls just a tad short IMO..

Wow very interesting...wonder how much the car costs...

If so, no more increase in oil price and it may affect OPEC's financial stability.

Watch water prices soar now.

Maybe they should go back to steam power

Thats really wonderful!
Now, the world will die thirsty.

It was not a bad idea, there are benefits on it, they can save gasoline and at the same time save the people from suffocation of dirty smoke.

If they could develop it to get anywhere near a normal car it would prove to be immensely popular the world over.

Originally Posted by Dr Teeth

Thats really wonderful!
Now, the world will die thirsty.

the world could never die thirsty as 75 % earth is water so there is no point we could burn all our water in our cars.

If this works we can overcome the economic crisis, I think

Hope it works on salt water cause we have a water shortage here.

Yes, you can run your car on water. All it takes is to build a “water-burning hybrid” is the installation of a simple, often home-made electrolysis cell under the hood of your vehicle. The key is to take electricity from the car’s electrical system to electrolyze water into a gaseous mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, often referred to as Brown’s Gas or HHO or oxyhydrogen. Typically, the mixture is in a ratio of 2:1 hydrogen atoms to oxygen atoms. This is then immediately piped into the intake manifold to replace some of the expensive gasoline you’ve been paying through the nose for these last couple of months. These simple “kits” will increase your fuel economy and decrease your bills and dependence on foreign petroleum by anywhere from 15 to 300 percent.

There’s even a Japanese company, Genepax, showing off a prototype that runs on nothing but water. On June 13 Reuters published a report on the prototype, complete with a now much-blogged-about video even showing an innocuous gray box in the Genepax vehicle'strunk supplying all the power to drive the car. All you have to do is add an occasional bottle of Evian (or tea, or whatever aqueous fluid is handy), then drive all over without ever needing gasoline.

So what do I think about all of this? Why haven’t I tested and written about this stuff? It’s certain to Change the World As We Know It ... right?

Rubbish.

The only real definitive claim Genepax makes on its Web site is that its process is going to save the world from global warming. (A request for comment was not returned at press time.) Their Water Energy System (WES) appears to be nothing more than a fuel cell converting the hydrogen and oxygen back into electricity, which is used to run to a motor that drives the wheels. Fuel cell technology is well-understood and pretty efficient at changing hydrogen and oxygen into electricity and water, which is where we came in, right? Except the hydrogen came from water in the first place—something doesn’t add up here.

Here’s the deal, people: There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.

There is energy in water. Chemically, it’s locked up in the atomic bonds between the hydrogen and oxygen atoms. When the hydrogen and oxygen combine, whether it’s in a fuel cell, internal combustion engine running on hydrogen, or a jury-rigged pickup truck with an electrolysis cell in the bed, there’s energy left over in the form of heat or electrons. That’s converted to mechanical energy by the pistons and crankshaft or electrical motors to move the vehicle.

Problem: It takes exactly the same amount of energy to pry those hydrogen and oxygen atoms apart inside the electrolysis cell as you get back when they recombine inside the fuel cell. The laws of thermodynamics haven’t changed, in spite of any hype you read on some blog or news aggregator. Subtract the losses to heat in the engine and alternator and electrolysis cell, and you’re losing energy, not gaining it—period.

But enough about Genepax, which is sort of tangential to my main thesis here, and on to a more common topic in my mail que: HHO as a means of extending the fuel economy of conventional IC engines.

HHO enthusiasts—from hypermilers to Average Joes desperate to save at the pump—suggest that hydrogen changes the way gasoline burns in the combustion chamber, making it burn more efficiently or faster. Okay, there have been a couple of engineering papers that suggest a trace of hydrogen can change the combustion characteristics of ultra-lean-burning stratified-charge engines. Properly managed H2 enrichment seems to increase the burn rate of the hydrocarbons in the cylinder, extracting more energy. However, these studies only suggest increases in fuel economy by a few percentage points and don’t apply unless the engine is running far too lean for decent emissions. That’s a long way from the outrageous claims of as much as 300-percent improvements in economy that I see on the Internet and in my mailbox.

There’s no reason to believe that even more modest increases claimed by some of the ads could be achieved by a conventional, computer-controlled automobile engine running under closed-loop driving—that is, the computer’s ability to sample the oxygen output of the engine’s exhaust in real time and slew the fuel/air ratio for big mpg and small emissions. The combustion chamber events are far different in the type of ultra-lean-burn engines where hydrogen enrichment has been seen to help. Ultra-lean means there’s a lot of extra oxygen around for the hydrogen to have something to react with—far more than the very modest amount we’re sucking in from the typical homebrew hydrogen generator made from a Mason jar. And remember, these studies deal with hydrogen enrichment under closely-controlled lab conditions, not spraying an uncontrolled amount of hydrogen-oxygen mixture into your air cleaner.

They should all run on piss, then when you have to take a leak, just fill 'er up.

Originally Posted by Colleen

They should all run on piss, then when you have to take a leak, just fill 'er up.

LMAO this is a great comment.

Yeah, I've heard that such cars run at hydrogen, but the thing is that the costs amazing sum of money. But it doesn't cause pollution of the environment. That's a positive side of it!

Amazing. Wonder what the oil companies would do if it ever gets to the point where we have a truly viable option like this. (I'm thinking about that corn of a movie with Keanu Reeves, "Chain Reaction" :lol: )

It was really great change in the technology. In the high price of oil and gas, this product is a gift to the ordinary people. Ordinary people can buy this car with affordable price.

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Bindu Jaisankar

Didn't take long for the internet scammers to catch on to this one though did it?

Originally Posted by aarathy

It was really great change in the technology. In the high price of oil and gas, this product is a gift to the ordinary people. Ordinary people can buy this car with affordable price.

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Bindu Jaisankar

No way, the price of the car will be higher than normal one, because it is running on cheap fuel.

then this is a good news since we will have a clean environment. we will not choke the pollution at all and we will overcome the world crisis.

It sounds highly suspicious but its true. I imagine you are thinking wow, I could just fill my tank up with water instead of gas with a few modifications! To which I have to say no.

Water does not work like a fuel. Fuel undergoes a chemical reaction known as combustion. During combustion energy is released as fuel is turned into water and carbon dioxide. Water cannot be combusted - its the final product of combustion.

Water will not fuel your engine. There are engines however that use water, like a steam engine. A steam engine uses fuel to boil water. The boiled water will compress pistons or spin turbines, but water here is not the fuel. You still have to burn fuel to make the steam. Steam locomotives burned coal to make steam.

It sounds like these guys you talked to are doing something like that. Sure technically they are making a car run on water - but in reality they are using fuel to make that car run on water. You'd be better sticking with your current engine that doesn't rely on water to run itself - your engine is far more efficient.

Here are some real means to fuel your engine that aren't gasoline: Biodiesel, a fuel made from canola oil and grain alcohol; Ethanol, simply grain alcohol; Solar, taking advantage of the Sun's combustion reaction to power your own car (a lot of people scoff, but with the right technology, one could make this work); Used cooking oil, its trash that companies are getting rid of anyway (this takes some serious modifications, but I've heard it works).

It a reality! Thanks to share this news.Its wonderful!

This is not new to me..I already heard this news in my country, that someone invented how to run a car with the use of water. But his formula bought by oil companies. So that he can't spread it.

it's what I need!

Read the history behind this water fueled car here.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Who-Invent...ar?&id=1580629

Wait, the oil companies will buy the patent LOL!

its great....
nice to hear technology developing @ this great rate.....
But the car would be xpensive..

i wish to have that

Originally Posted by greenghost

i wish to have that

Don't hold your breath

Likely won't see such a clean running solution for a very long time...